How can you be a good physicist

Become a good physicist - without talent?

Mรคxl94  ๐Ÿ“… 28.04.2013 15:33:19
Become a good physicist - without talent?
Hi!

Did you want to know what makes a good physicist?
I am considering whether to go into the subject. My school grades and the Abi are very good in PhysikLK (and MatheGK), but that says little about academic achievements.
I wouldn't call myself a mathematical talent, I'm very interested in most topics in physics, but nothing more. It often takes me a long time to find a solution (at least at school). Probably much longer at university.

Still, I wanted to know if you can become a good physicist without being half a genius? I'm also talking about publications etc, so also the opportunity to become a little known among physicists.

Did you observe anything, so most of the researchers are geniuses or normal but interested people?
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
Huhu,

So I would say the most important things are perseverance and perseverance. When I was studying, I was rarely concerned with speed. Of course, the exams are limited in time, but it was more important that the routine from the exercises was in place.
And those who have been able to cling to it every week have a routine of the exercises.

After graduation, future good physicists will receive a doctorate for at least three years. Since the physicists in this country usually pursue 1/2 positions in their doctorate, this is particularly a financial dry spell. You are 19 now, right? In my late twenties I felt too old for this dry spell, and at this point I said goodbye to physics with thanks.

Anyone who also passes this "exam" and still wants to keep up with basic physical research then first goes abroad as a post-doc. Here you gain experience and hopefully fame in temporary positions. Those who still do not allow themselves to be deterred by this and continue to research diligently, practicing renunciation, can, in my opinion, be able to do so. actually become a good physicist even as a "normal" person. "Of course the conditions are bad, but the subject is sooo super interesting," you hear from these former fellow students. I have some respect for that.

Most of them lose their ambition at some point, however, and they look for a cozy, permanent and well-paid place outside of (public) pure research.



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Strange curd  ๐Ÿ“… 30.04.2013 23:52:22
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
So,

I would put the physicists I experience in different categories.
First of all, there are those professors who can simply put themselves in a good light. Most of the time, the success is achieved by 1-2 post-docs, some of them extremely good, or good luck in collecting third-party funding.

But then there are also those who are really extremely enthusiastic about their cause. They are also not particularly talented, but rather ambitious and then usually become famous accordingly.

Just stay tuned and it will be fine.
I didn't even have physics in high school and will soon be finished with my studies.

In the industry, you don't have to look for fame in the first place :-)

greetings
Biolulu  ๐Ÿ“… 19.04.2015 00:33:26
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
Hello, can I get in touch with you?
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
Dear thread creator,

I don't want to talk about your plans, which you have as a naive student, but you should inform yourself thoroughly on the topics of fixed-term contracts, science-time contracts, 12-year rule, etc. before you make a decision. Do you read the "ZEIT"? Articles on the very difficult situation of the scientific precariat have been published there recently, including a doctorate in physics.

I know that as a schoolboy you dream of exciting research and fame, but you have to give you a lot in order to become a well-known physicist: Prepare yourself for a lot of competition and a hard, stony and often fruitless path. The cake doesn't really get any bigger, but the number of blackheads (graduates) rises and rises and rises ... I just copy-paste my impressions from a neighboring thread.

Regards, the FhG physicist

QuoteIn principle, there are currently a large number of new students, so that the number of graduates will probably triple or quadruple in the foreseeable future compared to the beginning of the millennium (as the German Physical Society writes). It should be clear that the number of relevant posts will certainly not increase to the same extent. You don't have to be a clairvoyant to suspect that starting your career will become more and more difficult in view of these numbers. With me at the Fraunhofer Institute, dozens of physics graduates apply to every job advertisement for all possible positions, even if the job description doesn't fit at all.

Especially if your motivation is more to have a secure job later, to have a not too difficult career start and to work in the technical field, there are much better and more productive ways than studying physics.

Even if you love physics and especially (!) Mathematics and can't imagine anything better, you have to warn. Unfortunately it is the case that the positions at the university where you do "real" physics are very limited and generally limited to approx. 1-2 years. Applications for new project funds usually have a 20-30% probability of approval (I know that because I write such applications myself) and if no application goes through, you have no money to finance you and you have to go or get a new one again looking for a temporary job and moving. Incidentally, I know a number of good and capable, accomplished doctors who are trying to leave the university for this reason.

In summary, I can't really recommend studying physics at the moment.



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Nick_  ๐Ÿ“… 19.04.2015 19:47:52
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
The thread is two years old and the creator is probably studying electrical engineering now.

I do not share your very pessimistic assessment. Not every physicist wants to become a scientist or stay forever. I don't want to miss my PhD. For a few years I was allowed to research facilities that are unique in the world. Nobody will take this time away from me. I still made the leap into industry even though I still worked as a postdoc for 1.5 years.
dongo  ๐Ÿ“… 25.04.2015 09:26:56
Re: Becoming a good physicist - without talent?
I look similar to Nick. Physics is great, but at least I am (and with that, I think I'm not an isolated case, I don't want to research forever and ever.).

VG,
dongo.
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